{"id":2402,"date":"2010-04-25T09:24:34","date_gmt":"2010-04-25T16:24:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bigjimindustries.com\/wordpress\/index.php\/2010\/04\/jamesfrey-thinks-his-new-book-could-work-or-be-the-biggest-disaster-ever\/"},"modified":"2010-04-26T09:28:00","modified_gmt":"2010-04-26T16:28:00","slug":"jamesfrey-thinks-his-new-book-could-work-or-be-the-biggest-disaster-ever","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bigjimindustries.com\/wordpress\/2010\/04\/25\/jamesfrey-thinks-his-new-book-could-work-or-be-the-biggest-disaster-ever\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;#JamesFrey thinks his [new] book could work, or be the biggest disaster ever.&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/tobielliottjourno.wordpress.com\/2010\/04\/25\/oooooh-james-frey-gets-me-riled-up-which-is-exactly-what-he-wants\/\" target=\"_blank\">from Tobi Elliot<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal\" class=\"Apple-style-span\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 10px\" class=\"itemhead\">\n<h3 style=\"font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: #444444; text-decoration: none; font-size: 2.2em; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: -1px; display: inline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/tobielliottjourno.wordpress.com\/2010\/04\/25\/oooooh-james-frey-gets-me-riled-up-which-is-exactly-what-he-wants\/\" style=\"color: #444444; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: initial; border-bottom-color: initial; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word\" title=\"Permanent Link to \"oooooh, James Frey gets me riled up \u2013 which is exactly what he\u00a0wants!\"\" rel=\"bookmark\">oooooh, James Frey gets me riled up \u2013 which is exactly what he\u00a0wants!<\/a><\/h3>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 3px !important; color: #cccccc !important; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif !important; letter-spacing: -1px; font-weight: bold; font-size: 23px; text-transform: lowercase; display: inline; padding: 0px\" class=\"chronodata\">25apr10<\/p>\n<p style=\"font: normal normal normal 1.2em\/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; text-align: left; color: #333333; padding-bottom: 1px; background-image: url('http:\/\/s1.wp.com\/wp-content\/themes\/pub\/unsleepable\/images\/break.gif'); background-repeat: repeat-x; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; line-height: 19px; margin-bottom: 2px; background-position: 0% 100%\" class=\"itemtext\">\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\" class=\"snap_preview\">\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">In the time betwixt when I eat my palate-cleansing pre-dinner salad and my platter of mouthwatering lamb and quinoa tonight, I will be mulling three things. First, which questions I\u2019ll ask Ezra Winton (of Cinema Politica fame) tomorrow about the state of Aboriginal filmmaking in Canada, following up on a story I\u2019ve been writing for about a month now (and which I\u2019m shopping around, if anyone is interested.) Secondly, how attractive apparel on a woman \u2013 namely 4-inch heels \u2013 will draw second and third glances from men in direct proportion to how painful said apparel is. And thirdly, why I cannot abide James Frey and will never read one of his creations, no matter how much we mutually dislike Oprah Winfrey.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">(Oh and I will also be thinking about recent conversations with documentary filmmaker Magnus Isacsson, most of which are highly confidential but I\u2019ll tell all here. Kidding! I\u2019ll write what I can. In a bit.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">Meanwhile, to the despicable James Frey\u2026<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">The Fourth Horseman of the literary world \u2013 a term coined by greater minds than mine \u2013 is in Montreal hawking his latest novel<em>\u00a0Bright Shiny Morning<\/em>. Yes, that man, the\u00a0<em>Million Little Pieces<\/em>\u00a0guy the world couldn\u2019t get enough of after he was outed on national television for having fabricated (or embellished, as he prefers to call it) his first book. That guy, who flouts every convention known to English writing, doesn\u2019t use quotation marks (\u201cooooohhhhh!\u201d cries the admiring public. \u201cHow very brave!\u201d) and thinks he\u2019s more bad-ass than Hustler S. Thompson. Yes, I said Hustler, because they\u2019re both just that: masters of cheap literary tricks and good at playing fast and loose with the world around them.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">I attended this talk at the Blue Metropolis, Montreal\u2019s literary-get-your-book-geek-hat-on festival, titled \u2018Face to Face with James Frey\u2019. The interview was hosted by a recent professor of mine, Joel Yanofsky, who did an excellent job asking some tough questions while maintaining a civil and friendly discourse. He\u2019s a brilliant interviewer (and I don\u2019t say that just because he gave me an \u2018A\u2019 in Magazine writing.) You can listen to the interview on CBC radio, though I\u2019m not sure when. It doesn\u2019t seem to be scheduled for any time in particular on the site. Should be either on the program<a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/ideas\/\" style=\"color: #da1071; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: initial; border-bottom-color: initial; text-decoration: none !important; word-wrap: break-word; font-weight: normal\">Ideas<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/writersandcompany\/\" style=\"color: #da1071; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: initial; border-bottom-color: initial; text-decoration: none !important; word-wrap: break-word; font-weight: normal\">Writers and Company<\/a>\u00a0or the Sunday Edition in Montreal.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">Anyway, I have a lot to say about Frey. I\u2019ll start with my twitterfeed as the talk unfolded:<\/p>\n<ul style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">\n<li>At BlueMetropolis watching interview of #JamesFrey by a former prof of mine #JoelYanofsky<\/li>\n<li>Opening question: how do you feel about memoirs now? Answer: I feel the term is bullshit.<\/li>\n<li>\u201cAnyone who reads a memoir and thinks it\u2019s truth is pretty much lying to themselves\u201d #JamesFrey<\/li>\n<li>\u201cI thot, F\u2013k it,I\u2019m gonna do James\u201d in answer 2 ? whether it was his idea2put his name in book.#JamesFrey<\/li>\n<li>\u201cMoved 2 LA 2 write books 2 make money.\u201d #JamesFrey<\/li>\n<li>Million Little Pieces: was ttrying 2find his voice.#JamesFrey \u201cwanted 2be the most controversial writer of my time\u201d<\/li>\n<li>\u201cI use a huge amount of profanity, I don\u2019t use paragraph indentations, I don\u2019t use quote marks\u201d #JamesFrey<\/li>\n<li>He certainly does. Every third word is \u201cprofane\u201d. #JamesFrey. And doesn\u2019t speak in paragraphs. Seems 2think it\u2019s cool.<\/li>\n<li>\u201cIt was mostly about making this dream come true, which was writing this book. It was supposed2be shocking in how it was written.\u201d#JamesFrey<\/li>\n<li>\u201cit was published in 25 languages. I got an extra 10 out of Oprah.\u201d #JamesFrey \u201cIn a lot of ways it was awesome, it was perfect.\u201d &gt;&gt;&gt; referring to Oprah-outing controversy and how good it was for sales &lt;&lt;&lt;<\/li>\n<li>Claims to have HAngels bodyguards w\/him when he does book tours or interviews in the US. #JamesFrey HA leader claims \u201cyou\u2019re like us now.\u201d&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; that\u2019s Hell\u2019s Angel\u2019s &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;<\/li>\n<li>Good question: \u201cwhy wasn\u2019t the truth enough? Why wasn\u2019t what happened to you, enough?\u201d #JamesFrey<\/li>\n<li>\u201cIf I can fuck a reader up, make you cry, or not be able to turn the next page, then that\u2019s truth. I\u2019m not interested in facts.\u201d #JamesFrey<\/li>\n<li>Talking about NormanMailer: \u201che said, \u2018this happens when you write a book important enough to cause this kind of controversy\u2019.\u201d #JamesFrey<\/li>\n<li>The idea that memoir is not a legitimate form of writing is\u2026 Interesting. True that what\u2019s important is truth, not facts. But.. #JamesFrey\u00a0\u00a0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;my commentary starting to sneak in &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;<\/li>\n<li>\u201cI\u2019ll be back&amp;I\u2019m coming back with both my middle fingers up&amp;they can all kiss my ass b\/c I\u2019m writing a book that\u2019ll b read 50 yrs from now\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;yes, there was lots of crudeness, he seems to delight in it the way a 12 year old boy would &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;<\/li>\n<li>Re: latest book \u2018bright shiny morning\u2019 about L.A. #JamesFrey. JYanofsky calls it \u201c\u2018Grapes of Wrath\u2019 with lots more swearing in it.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>#JamesFrey:\u201dYou want me to write books that are either fact or fiction?Well F\u2013 you! I\u2019m going to do exactly the same thing I did last time\u201d<\/li>\n<li>\u201cOnly I\u2019m going to do it even more sophisticated this time, so you can\u2019t tell the difference.\u201d about his latest book #JamesFrey<\/li>\n<li>Look for #JamesFrey\u2019s latest attempt at fact-fiction storytelling: The Third Testament of the Bible. About Jesus in Manhatten.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;NOT a joke. &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;<\/li>\n<li>Believes American fundamentalist religion will cause a war that will destroy the world in the next 50 years. #JamesFrey<\/li>\n<li>\u201cI want to experience everything. As much of the best things and the worst things in life that I can, and everything in b\/t.\u201d #JamesFrey\u00a0\u00a0 &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (Yanofsky asks if he would give his kids this advice, and he replies no, he wouldn\u2019t) &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;<\/li>\n<li>#JamesFrey thinks his book could work or be the biggest disaster ever.\u201dIt\u2019s about the most audacious,absurd,ambitious thing ever attempted\u201d &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; he DID qualify this by saying, \u201cby a writer\u201d &lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;<\/li>\n<li>Thankfully #JamesFrey turns down comparisons to HSThompson, Truman Capote. Says they turned into caricatures of themselves. Sure u escaped?<\/li>\n<li>Admits 2writing &amp;commissioning other books &amp;having them written by younger writers. Beware! There are books out there by #JamesFrey,but not!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">In conclusion:<\/p>\n<ul style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">\n<li>My take on #JamesFrey &amp; his problem with memoir, or any kind of storytelling that purports to be stick to the truth: those who don\u2019t like it\u2026.<\/li>\n<li>\u2026 are usually the ones who have an equal and proportional issue with taking responsibility for their words, and actions. #JamesFrey\u2026<\/li>\n<li>\u2026just wants to write what he wants to write, and let the world be damned. Enjoy the ride while it lasts #JamesFrey. At least ur not alone<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">Mr. Frey\u2019s arrogance was evident, oh-so-evident throughout the interview. He was gleeful about being labeled \u201cnotorious\u201d and a bad boy in the world of highbrow lit. He loves being mentioned in the same breath as Norman Mailer. He\u2019s been determined to do get to this point his whole life.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">But that\u2019s not really what bothered me in the end. Even though this whole adventure seemed like one big game to him, all of it: messing up the literary conventions, getting a reputation for being a troublemaker, making piles of money doing it, having to shelter in France because he was so reviled in the States, having Hell\u2019s Angles bodyguards because he\u2019s such a bad-ass, it\u2019s not so bad. There are a lot of rich a\u2014holes with crazy ideas about changing the entire way one field or another is played. I don\u2019t actually quibble with any of the above.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">The fact that he\u2019s making tons of money and published in all these countries just means that he has a wider audience for his ego, but I\u2019m sure it was always there. He can be as arrogant as his talent entitles him to, he can make as much money as the buying public will allow him to, and he can flout as many conventions as he wants. That\u2019s his perogative.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">However, I don\u2019t buy his dismissal of the entire memoir genre as false. I get that we\u2019re in the post-postmodern age, when everything is relative and nothing is real. Nothing you see is going to be the same as what I see, which is his argument for why the memoir is a false form of journalism. I get that. But that doesn\u2019t mean it\u2019s invalid. It just means you have to be extra-responsible for what you communicate. Extra careful to put things into terms that everyone can identify with, yet which are unique to your perspective and true to the situation.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">Frey doesn\u2019t seem to want to indulge in that sort of hard-won, reflective writing. He just wants to write what he wants, and \u201cf\u2013k everyone else.\u201d How many times he said \u201cF\u2013k \u2018em\u201d today, I couldn\u2019t count. He\u2019s simply unwilling to take the time to write something with some semblance of truth, so he resorts to his pet creation \u201cstorytelling\u201d that he uses to excuse any combination of fancy and fact. And he bears no responsibility for it, because it\u2019s just a story. It doesn\u2019t matter. Fuck em.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">Nor do I buy his reasons for mixing fact and fiction so gleefully and calling it \u201ctruth\u201d. He claims that what he\u2019s getting at in his stories, which he says are between 75 per cent and 85 per cent factually faithful, is high art and truth. He\u2019s not about the lowly, pedestrian communication of facts, which he seems to consider a little more base than flipping burgers at McDo\u2019s. But as humans we are forced to make decisions every day, to do or not do, and this results in the particular circumstances we find ourselves in. It\u2019s the story of what happened, and why it happened, that\u2019s important, not your damn recreation of it according to how you later decided you want it to have happened.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">We all embellish things in the telling. No question. But anyone who so cavalierly dismisses any responsibility to tell things the way they are, not the way they feel they should be, is not writing non-fiction. They should make their money doing something else, or pretending to do something else.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-top: 13px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 13px; margin-left: 0px\">James Frey: Take your illusions elsewhere. I know some think you\u2019re a whiz and buy up your books just because they don\u2019t know what the hell they\u2019re reading, and they don\u2019t care. What\u2019s sad is that it\u2019s precisely those poor suckers that makes Frey laugh up his sleeve the whole time, at the whole establishment, at all of America, because he\u2019s still got everyone playing his little game.<\/p>\n<p><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; color: #333333\" class=\"Apple-style-span\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2008\/05\/12\/books\/12masl.html\" style=\"color: #da1071; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: initial; border-bottom-color: initial; text-decoration: none !important; word-wrap: break-word; font-weight: normal\">You poor suckers.<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; color: #333333\" class=\"Apple-style-span\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2008\/05\/12\/books\/12masl.html\" style=\"color: #da1071; border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: initial; border-bottom-color: initial; text-decoration: none !important; word-wrap: break-word; font-weight: normal\"><\/a><\/span>[ <a href=\"http:\/\/tobielliottjourno.wordpress.com\/2010\/04\/25\/oooooh-james-frey-gets-me-riled-up-which-is-exactly-what-he-wants\/\" target=\"_blank\">click to read at tobielliottjourno.wordpress.com<\/a> ]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>from Tobi Elliot oooooh, James Frey gets me riled up \u2013 which is exactly what he\u00a0wants! 25apr10 In the time betwixt when I eat my palate-cleansing pre-dinner salad and my platter of mouthwatering lamb and quinoa tonight, I will be mulling three things. First, which questions I\u2019ll ask Ezra Winton (of Cinema Politica fame) tomorrow [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":26,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[2,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2402","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-conversation-information","category-literary-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bigjimindustries.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2402","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bigjimindustries.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bigjimindustries.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bigjimindustries.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/26"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bigjimindustries.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2402"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/bigjimindustries.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2402\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bigjimindustries.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2402"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bigjimindustries.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2402"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bigjimindustries.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2402"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}